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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:12 pm    Post subject: Gabapentin Reply with quote

Hi all,

Gabapentin is a medications that I take for leg spasms due to spinal stenosis. I tried SEARCH for any mention if this medication will affect my recovery but did not find anything. I was diagnosed in June 2017 as having CC. I am currently starting my 2nd week of the E diet. Also please if I start taking Allegra 60mg will I be helping or hindering finding out my food sensitivities? I've seen antihistamines mentioned while reading forum but is it a lifetime medication?

Thank you for any input.
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Food Intolerances : Gluten, casein, soy, and avenin, (avenin is the prolamin in oats, which is equivalent to the gluten in wheat), beef, grapes, peanuts, cashews, almonds, (but nut butters seem OK except for peanuts), citric acid, chocolate, and agar.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Retta,

As far as I am aware, Gabapentin has not been associated with causing MC or any other form of colitis.

An antihistamine should have no effect on food sensitivities or being able to detect them. The reason an antihistamine reduces the chances of a relapse when weaning off budesonide is because corticosteroids reduce inflammation by suppressing mast cell numbers and their activation. And then when the corticosteroid is discontinued, mast cell numbers and their activation tend to rebuild past where they would normally be, causing a relapse of symptoms. This excessive rebuilding is known as a rebound effect. An antihistamine prevents this from happening by continuing to suppress mast cell numbers and activity. That's why an antihistamine is sometimes as effective as a corticosteroid at suppressing intestinal inflammation. I've forgotten the exact numbers, but something like 7080 % of your total mast cells are located in your intestines.

Normally, after taking an antihistamine for several months, it can be safely stopped. But there is no apparent reason why you could not take an antihistamine long-term, if needed. There is a possibility that it might eventually lose it's effectiveness for you. That's common for medications. You could probably switch brands to get around that problem, however.

I hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Tex. I never took Budesonide or any other prescription meds for CC. But it does sound like the Allegra will be beneficial.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

of note, a lot of medications deplete magnesium.

are you using topical magnesium taking Vit D3?? this will also help the nervous system issues that you are taking the Gabapentin for
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Gabes,

No not taking topical Mag. I have seen it mentioned on the forum but not sure if I need it or why.

I have been taking 400mg of Magnesium Bisglycinate For the leg cramps and I take Vitamin D3. I was taking 2000IU of D3 that has soy in it but changed to 5000IU that is FREE.

Thank you for your interest and any information. I read as much as I can but everything is very foreign and overwhelming to me.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Retta,

If you're taking 400 mg of magnesium bisglycinate, that should be enough. Be sure that you're actually getting 400 MG of magnesium, though. For years I made the mistake of assuming that I was taking 400 mg because I was taking two tablets from a bottle that showed 200 mg on the front label. One day I read the fine print on the back label and discovered that 200 mg was actually what they considered a dose. It went on to say that a dose is two tablets. Shocked IOW, each tablet was actually only 100 mg. I thought I was taking plenty when actually I was becoming more magnesium deficient every day because of their stupid label convention.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same problem Tex. The bottle shows 400 on the front and 200 on the back label. I may call the manufacturer for clarification.

Thanks for the heads up.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're very welcome. I think it's deceptive advertising and it causes a lot of misery for a lot of people, but it's a very common practice among magnesium supplement manufacturers. In my case, despite my obvious symptoms of chronic magnesium deficiency, I "knew" (mistakenly) that I couldn't be magnesium deficient because I thought I was taking plenty of magnesium, so I kept looking elsewhere for a solution. Rolling Eyes

May the bird of paradise fly up their nose.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too funny . Thank you I needed that. My health and pictures of the disaster getting to me.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I called the manufacturer of my Mag Viva and they told me the front of the bottle that says 400mg per serving is an error. so the 2 tablets I was taking was only 200 mg. Now I need to take 4 Sad

Is 400 mg the recommended amount to help me feel better?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe. That would probably be enough magnesium citrate to cause loose stools, but it should be OK if you are taking magnesium glycinate. But rather than taking it all at once, it's much better to space it out with meals or snacks during the day, because there is a limit to how much magnesium we can use at an any given time.

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thanks Tex
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the KAL brand of mag glycinate, two pills gets you 400 mg.
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Thank you Brandy I will check it out.
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