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barbieAnn

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:48 am    Post subject: nausea after eating sweets - empty feeling in stomach Reply with quote

Hello everyone,

I am a newbie here and just wanted to know if anyone experiences a nauseous feeling immediately after eating cake, cookies, anything sweet. I have noticed at night, well after eating dinner, I sometimes will get a nauseaous feeling after eating a piece of cake or cookies, etc. The feeling dissipates after a little while, I usually have to suck on ginger mints or peppermint which calms the stomach down a bit.

I was telling Tex about the nausea and how my doctors simply do not believe that nausea is a symptom of MC. I also get a very empty feeling in my tummy very often, even after eating. It almost brings on dry heaves - it's awful. This just started for a few weeks. I've been suffering with this since July and the symptoms just seem to get worse. But I was just curious about the nausea -

This site is so informative - I am learning so much more than going to the doctor!
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Food Intolerances : Gluten, Casein, Soy and Egg
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey BarbieAnn,

I’m sure others who have more knowledge than I will post but from my experience, sweets are not your friend with MC. Occasionally I will have a piece of an Enjoy Life (dairy, gluten, soy, egg, free) chocolate but definitely not daily. Another treat is a glass of chocolate almond milk. Keep your diet as basic as possible and I think you’ll start to feel better. Protein/banana/sweet potato/rice. It’s boring but so worth it.

Hang in there ~
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Food Intolerances : Gluten, casein, soy, and avenin, (avenin is the prolamin in oats, which is equivalent to the gluten in wheat), beef, grapes, peanuts, cashews, almonds, (but nut butters seem OK except for peanuts), citric acid, chocolate, and agar.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pam is right of course. When our intestines are inflamed, they can't produce enough of the enzymes they need to digest certain sugars. Consequently some of the sugars ferment in our gut. This causes nausea, gas, cramps, and diarrhea. Carbs are complex sugars, so we have to eat less of them, also. Eat more protein. It's necessary for healing. The only sugar I could digest when I was recovering is maple sugar. Lactose and fructose are the most troublesome sugars (least likely to be digested/most likely to ferment).

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Food Intolerances : gluten, dairy, soy, oats, corn, yeast, gilthead bream, sole, carp, red bream, pike perch, seadevil, sea bass, shark, oysters, some nuts, capres, marjoram, caraway, ananas, cherrie spinach, chick peas, horsebean and more

PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi BarbieAnn,

I know exactly what you mean with the empty feeling in your stomach. I had this for a long time until I was in remission and I have it again in times of problems (WD/inflammation). It is very unpleasant, but it disappears quickly if your intestines calm down.
The only 'sugar' I can tolerate is dates: I use them to sweeten things, like my home made chocolates and bars with nuts and seeds. You need a good kitchen machine for making that kind of food.

Sonja
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everyone!

I had nausea last night, 1st time. Rough weekend, going back to BRAT diet. No good meds yet for the inflammation. waiting for $ financial assistance for Uceris.

Barbie Ann, you should think about the diet plan Gabes provided. Don't have the link, I need to look at it too. Tex, can you post the link again?
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Food Intolerances : Gluten, casein, soy, and avenin, (avenin is the prolamin in oats, which is equivalent to the gluten in wheat), beef, grapes, peanuts, cashews, almonds, (but nut butters seem OK except for peanuts), citric acid, chocolate, and agar.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure. Here's a couple:

Guidelines for Recovery

Suggested Eating Plan - Stage ONE

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are any of the gluten free breads, muffins etc ok to eat? My husband has celiac and I have been eating the pasta, bread etc - As I am waiting to get an endoscopy, I was told that I need to eat wheat in order for them to see if I do have an allergy.

Can you make the bone broth on the stove, or does it have to be with the crockpot? Pre-packaged bone broth is not recommended? What about boullion cubes, canned broth etc?

Thank you!!!
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Food Intolerances : Gluten, Yeast, Caesin, Soy, salad/raw veges and fruit
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bone broth
Yes - you can make it on the stove.

larger size pot, water, bones, and salt. slow boil for 2-3 hours. (to optimise mineral content bake bones first)

pre packaged broth, boullion cubes, canned broth etc are not ideal for a couple of reasons;
- as they contain ingredients that are triggers for Mc'ers. It may be that you only react to one or two of the 6-7 ingredients
- higher risk for contamination. from various trigger ingredients
- good qualty organic ones are expensive - it is cheaper to make your own


regarding the gluten free muffins etc - we encourage people to avoid these in the first stages of healing. our bodies do much better on whole foods rather than processed flours items. Addditionally there is minimal nutritional value in the items, we get far better benefit and nutrition from good proteins and safe well cooked vegetables etc.

hope this helps
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Gabes - you are an enormous help. Can you tell me - is chicken or beef bone broth the best - or does it just depend on what we can tolerate better?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Priority should be the meats that you tolerate best and what is accessible / affordable.

aim for joint bones,

one thing that a few people do is cook up roast meats for meals (roasts on the bone) and once eaten freeze the bones until you are doing a batch of bone broth.
for me i use lamb shanks (lamb is readily available in Australia) and chicken feet or chicken legs etc.
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