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GrammyLou
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:05 am    Post subject: Dosage of supplements? Reply with quote

I was diagnosed with LC about 6 months ago and have been on a very restricted diet since early November. My symptoms have been up and down. Can someone give me advice on the amount of supplements I should be taking? I know magnesium is important. I purchased Kirkman Magnesium Bisglycinate Chelate as recommended by someone here. I am confused by the Supplement Facts on the bottle. This is what it looks like:

Each Serving Contains: Amount per Serving % daily value
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Magnesium
(as Bisglycinate Chelate) 100mg 25%
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from Magnesium
Bisglycinate Chelate 555mg daily value not established
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INGREDIENTS: Magnesium Bisglycinate Chelate, Magnesium Oxide, L-Leucine, Plant Cellulose Capsule.

I don't understand why Magnesium Oxide is listed in the ingredients, but is NOT listed in the table under "Each Serving Contains". Yet Bisglycinate Chelate appears to be listed twice in the table. Can anyone explain this?
Also, how many of these should I be taking per day??

I also have Thorne Methyl-Guard Plus...(my B vitamins). Serving size says 3 capsules and 3 capsules contain: 90 mg Riboflavin, 45 mg B6, 3 mg folate, 3mg B12, 1.8 g Betain Anhydrous.

I have been taking just one Magnesium capsule and one MethylGuard Plus daily. Additionally I'm taking 1000 mg Calcium citrate, and 1400 IU vit D3.
My puffy poo and cramps are better, though stools are still soft and not "normal". (only 1-2 BM's per day). Should I be taking more supplements?

My biggest problem lately has been head symptoms. I don't think it's what people refer to as "brain fog"...though I do have some of that. I think what I'm experiencing feels more like a histamine
reaction. I've read about DAO supplements. Does anyone take these? Do they help? Any side effects with these? Thanks so much for any help I can get!
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tex
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Food Intolerances : Gluten, casein, soy, and avenin, (avenin is the prolamin in oats, which is equivalent to the gluten in wheat), beef, grapes, peanuts, cashews, almonds, (but nut butters seem OK except for peanuts), citric acid, chocolate, and agar.
Location: Central Texas

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Louise,

Pharmaceutical companies are not required by law to list inactive ingredients on the label (although they often do). They apparently consider magnesium oxide to be an inactive ingredient (we can only absorb about 24 % of it, the rest stays in our gut to act as a laxative). The magnesium oxide is apparently there only because it's a byproduct of the chelation process or for some other incidental reason.

Those tablets will each provide you with 100 mg of actual (elemental) magnesium.

I take 1 tablet daily of Methyl-Guard Plus. I have peripheral neuropathy, but I have been treating it for over 8 years More would only be indicated if you have peripheral neuropathy or endothelial dysfunction and you are just beginning to treat it.

If it were me, I would be taking at least 3,0005,000 IU of vitamin D and 300 mg of magnesium and I would not be taking any calcium. If you're going to take that much calcium (even though you probably don't need any), you need to be taking a lot more magnesium (like at least 500600 mg more to compensate for the calcium risk to your cardiovascular system). But that much oral magnesium may cause D. It's simpler to just stop the calcium supplement. You almost surely get enough calcium from your diet, you just need more vitamin D to absorb it and enough magnesium to work with insulin to transport it to your cells.

It takes time to resolve the brain fog; about a year and a half to two years for most of us, but the Methyl-Guard Plus may speed it up.

The explanation on this is rather long and detailed, but my new book will explain why DAO supplements usually don't work and why magnesium will reduce histamine levels and increase DAO levels.

I hope this helps.

Tex
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GrammyLou
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Location: Colorado

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice, Tex. I am definitely going to stop the calcium and bump up the vitamin D supps.
So when you say you recommend 300 mg of magnesium, then based on the label info I posted above, should I be taking 1 mag pill three x/day? The first line on the label says 100 mg per capsule, but I am still confused by the second line on the label where it says:

Each serving contains.............Amount per serving................%daily value
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from Magnesium
Bisglycinate Chelate..................555mg...............................Daily value not established

Thanks so much for being there to help!!!
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Food Intolerances : Gluten, casein, soy, and avenin, (avenin is the prolamin in oats, which is equivalent to the gluten in wheat), beef, grapes, peanuts, cashews, almonds, (but nut butters seem OK except for peanuts), citric acid, chocolate, and agar.
Location: Central Texas

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, 3 tablets (1 each meal) should give you 300 mg total, and since the body normally expects to get magnesium from food, taking it at mealtime will be ideal.

Frankly I don't understand why they bother to put that on the label either it merely adds confusion without adding any useful information. IMO they would be better off if they omitted that part.

You're very welcome.

Tex
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