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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:20 pm    Post subject: My Enterolab Panel C test results Reply with quote

Food to which there was no significant immunological reactivity:none Food to which there was some immunological reactivity (1+):4 Food to which there was moderate immunological reactivity (2+): 5 Food to which there was significant and/or the most immunological reactivity (3+):2

Chicken,Tuna,Pork,White potato-1+

Corn,Beef,Walnut,Cashew,Almond-2+

Oat,Rice-3+


Within each class of foods to which you displayed multiple reactions, the hierarchy of those reactions detected were as follows:

Grains:
Grain toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Oat
Grain toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Rice
Grain toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Corn

Meats:
Meat toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Beef
Meat toward which you were next most immunologically reactive: Chicken
Meat toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Tuna
Meat toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Pork

Nuts:
Nut toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Walnut
Nut toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Cashew
Nut toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Almond

Nightshades:
You displayed immunologic reactivity to white potato, the member of the nightshade family usually consumed most often and in greatest quantities. While this does not necessarily mean you would react to all other nightshade foods (tomatoes, peppers, eggplant), it is possible. In the realm of elimination diets for immunologic disorders, nightshades are usually eliminated as the entire food class (i.e., all four previously mentioned foods in this class). This is especially important to the clinical setting of arthritis.

Should I be careful of all of these foods, even the 1+?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I think is interesting about my test results is that I haven't eaten tuna, walnuts or oats in many years. The only way I might have gotten any of those foods is in vitamins or medications or cross-contamination because my diet has been quite limited for a number of years.

Guess I'll be switching to turkey and lamb.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I, too, was surprised by my test results! I reacted to all 11 foods! And several of them I hadn't consumed in 15 years or so!

You can't eliminate all of them at once. That would be too much of shock and you will be more hungry than you already are! Remove the foods you displayed the most reaction to...oats, rice, beef, chicken, walnut & cashew.
Eat the 1+ foods for now.

My 1+ foods are potato cashew & walnut, and I have to avoid potato, but I soak the nuts overnight (makes them easier to digest) and make butter out of them. So you'll have to experiment with the 1+ foods.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Linda, the only food I actually eat now is pork so I'll just switch to turkey and lamb.

My allergist discovered that I am sensitive to gluten, but don't have the gene. That discovery in March actually somehow brought me to this forum (can't remember why) where I learned that my symptoms were probably related to mc. My G.I. doc told me five years ago that I probably had IBS along with mc.

I spent five years eliminating one food after another, but not the most important ones.

I am also allergic to eggs and soy so I didn't need to get tested again. I've eliminated dairy just because it is suggested by everyone here.

The Panel C just confirmed most of what I already knew, but that's good.

This is my first week of normans and feeling great, knock on wood.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linda, I just saw your test. What does Mean Value 11 Antigenic Foods 30 Units mean? What does the 30 units refer to exactly other than the foods.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is from the Enterolab site and they explain it better than I could! :)


Interpretation of Mean Value 11 Antigenic Foods: With respect to the mean value of the 11 foods tested, overall, there was only a modest amount of immunological reactivity detected to these antigenic foods in terms of fecal IgA production.

Many foods besides gluten, milk, egg, and soy are antigenic in their own right; the main classes of which include other grains, meats, nuts, and nightshades (potatoes being the primary food eaten from this latter class). Minimizing exposure to antigenic foods is an important component of an anti-inflammatory lifestyle to optimize immune system health. This is especially important for those with chronic abdominal symptoms and/or chronic immune/autoimmune syndromes, or for those who want to prevent them.

For immunologic food sensitivity testing, the actual numeric value (in Units) for any given food or for the overall average of a group of foods is important mainly for determining: 1) if the immune reaction is present or absent, and 2) the immune reaction in relative terms to different foods tested in a given individual at a given point in time. It is not a score, per se, to be interpreted as a measure of clinical or immunological severity for that individual or between individuals. This is because the amount of IgA antibody made by a given person is particular for the immune function of that person. Furthermore, sometimes a person can display what can be viewed as immunological and nutritional “exhaustion,” whereby a more significant and symptomatic immunologic food sensitivity is accompanied by a lower positive measured anti-food antibody value (rather than a higher positive). In such an instance, following clinical improvement and improved nutritional status (while the suspect antigenic foods are withdrawn), values can actually be higher for a time before finally falling into the negative range after several years.

Thus, the overall average food sensitivity antibody value for this panel is an assessment of your overall humoral immunologic food reactivity, which can help determine if dietary elimination trials may help you. If the mean value is less than 10 Units, the humoral immune reactions can be considered clinically insignificant (negative); if greater than or equal to 10 Units, they can be considered clinically significant (positive). Rather than reporting the absolute value of a positive result for each individual food, since it cannot be considered as an assessment of severity, the results are reported in semi-quantitative terms between the foods tested (1+, 2+, or 3+). This provides you with the knowledge of which foods are stimulating the most immune response which, in turn, is indeed the most practically applied information to dietary elimination trials.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know where you're from, but we should cook for each other, or exchange recipes! I eat venison, turkey, & haddock/cod as my protein sources. I stopped all seasonings except Himalayan salt, & a little garlic/onions....it is bland & boring but I think I'm making progress slowly.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Linda. I just spoke with the nurse at Enterolab and she said I should try to rotate foods so I am only eating a food twice a week because I probably would end up with a new intolerance if I didn't. She suggested that I introduce a new food (a little bit of that food) once a week.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't had the panel C testing from Enterolab, but it seems to me that your pork test results were pretty low - the lowest of the meats tested. I think you could probably eat pork. A rotation diet might help you determine if pork affects you.

I think your results don't look too bad overall. Remember that these results are listed both as an average and as a rank within groups. It can be somewhat confusing to interpret the results. For example, chicken is listed as your second most reactive meat, but it is also listed in the 1+ group, suggesting that it is pretty low-reactive for you. Rather than place emphasis on chicken's ranking within the meat group, I would pay more attention to the 1+, 2+, and 3+ groups. I say that purely based on my mathematical knowledge, not on experience with the panel C testing.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also reacted to everything. I eliminated all the +3 and +2 foods but continue to eat the +1 foods, for me pork and almonds without problems. Gloria is correct that the +1, +2 and +3 ranking are what you should pay attention to, eliminating all but the +1 which you can test to see if they bother you.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone, according to Tex and Enterolab the Mean number is also important and I left it out of my results above. It is 33 which is fairly high so I have to tread carefully with even the 1+.

However, I am and have been eating pork 2-3 times a day without a problem. I should add that I've only been eating pork for about 3 weeks though.

I was eating chicken 2-3 times a day for a long time and then pork and chicken and then stopped the chicken a couple of weeks ago because I am B neg blood type and chicken is really bad for my type(not sure this is credible, but thought I'd see if I feel better without it.)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mean was 30 units, as you saw, so it has been a long process....one which I haven't quite conquered yet, but slowly am progressing.... :)
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Did you do any other testing?
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Yes, I did MRT testing. It's a blood test that's not as reliable as Enterolab, but tests for about 150 different foods/chemicals. I needed to fine tune because I am so reactive. I found out I needed to take out salicylic acid...which was in my cosmetics and occurs naturally in many foods! I also tested for caution (yellow) for millet, sweet potato, peas, & acetaminophen! I had a red light for hops which includes the hemp family and I had been using hemp protein powder in smoothies because I found one with no fiber, and can't use rice protein! :(

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What do you eat now?
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