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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Vanessa,

I'm using both the ReMag and the ReMyte along with the B vitamins and the RnA drops. Have you tried the protein powder? I've never been one to use protein powder; however, I was considering trying this one but the idea of pea protein scares me; I don't want to try something that may cause a flare. If you've tried it, how was it and did you react? I understand that we're all different but sometimes we're not.

I've had to mix the ReMag with something else other than plain water. I bought a 32oz bottle and I add 1t ReMag and ReMyte to my water mixture. I do this 2x per day and boy, I feel as though I'm saturated with magnesium in a very good way! I also rub magnesium lotion (life-flo)on my feet and calves before I swim laps to prevent cramping. That has really helped and I can complete my workout. I also keep the lotion next to my bed just in case a cramp happens during the night. Now that I've been able to drink the ReMag, I no longer need the lotion at night and the eye twitching has also ceased. In the evening, after I finish my water, I pour about 8-10oz of water in the bottle and freeze it. The following morning I make my mag water concoction and I take it with me. The frozen water slowly melts and keeps the water cold and refreshing.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:30 am    Post subject: Remag Reply with quote

Thanks, Vanessa, I will give it a try!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Diana,

Great idea about freezing the water. I do take the protein powder without problems. Initially I noticed some gas and bloating. I started with under half a scoop and worked my way up. There is a very tiny amount of lactose in it (not casein) from the whey. I hadn't had any enzymes for that for awhile so I had the farts for a couple of weeks Surprised

Dr. Dean does have a free E booklet about the Restructure and where they get the protein from, about the amount of lactose , etc. It also really cut my cravings for sweets and junk. It's pretty filling.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, Vanessa. I think I'll add a sample of the protein powder on my next order and drink it on a day when I'll be at home Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:19 pm    Post subject: Magnesium Levels High Reply with quote

I just got my Micro-Nutrient Vitamin blood panel back and was surprised to see that my mag levels were elevated! I was not on any mag supplement prior to the blood work. Is this unusual, or a good sign that my vitamins and trace minerals are good, or elevated (mag only.)
I've read so much on this forum of depleted Mag levels and Vitamin D levels (also fine.)
Appreciate any feedback On my way! Micro-Nutrient blood testing and the accuracy of such?
Thank you all!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't claim to be an expert on testing methods by any means, but I find Spectra Cell's claim that using white cells for testing is the proper way to test for nutrients or vitamins or anything else to be without any basis in science. There's no evidence to substanciate that claim. I would be very, very suspicious of any test that showed a high magnesium level if I wasn't taking large doses of magnesium at the time.

But that's just my opinion.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had Specra cell testing back in my Naturopath days (paid huge bucks for it) and they could never really explain it to me, nor did it make sense that my mag levels were normal. I was having WD daily at that point and was having many mag deficiency symptoms. I just never really trusted it. Until there is an Ionized Magnesium test we will all have to go by symptoms Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what are the main symptoms of Mag deficiencies ( short of looking it up) in MC patients? I’d be seriously disappointed to think I paid good $$ for blood testing that is considered unreliable, especially by a well known treatment center such as Boston Heart? I currently take Butyrate with Magnesium and Calsium to help with gut inflammation if that might impact my elevated Mag level? Thanks again.
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Food Intolerances : Gluten, casein, soy, and avenin, (avenin is the prolamin in oats, which is equivalent to the gluten in wheat), beef, grapes, peanuts, cashews, almonds, (but nut butters seem OK except for peanuts), citric acid, chocolate, and agar.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Virtually all treatment centers and hospitals make a lot of money selling worthless tests every year. It's their bread and butter, so to speak.

This article lists a bunch of magnesium deficiency symptoms, but there are others, also.

Magnesium Deficiency Symptoms and Diagnosis

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting Tex. I do have several of this symptoms that started recently in the last few months. Insomnia, physical and mental fatigue, tension/pain in the upper back and shoulders and eye twitches at times.
I definitely have low energy, nervousness, Anxiousness, Irritability and depression! Blurred vision, sensitivity to bright lights now. All things I never had before coming down with MC!
So what is the gold standard for testing low mag levels, if blood tests are useless?
Thank you!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get an RBC (red blood cell) test for magnesium that is not ideal, but it's far better than the serum test that doctors usually order by default. But you'll have to interpret the results yourself.

The reason why the serum test is almost useless is because it measures magnesium in the bloodstream even though the blood contains only about 1 to 2 % of the total magnesium in the body and the amount is closely regulated because magnesium is a vital electrolyte. The so-called "normal" range for magnesium is just plain wrong. Why? Because approximately 80 % of the subjects in that study were magnesium deficient, so the "normal" range for magnesium is based on corrupt data. I agree with Dr. Carolyn Dean who says that the correct normal range for the RBC test should be at least 6.0–6.5 mg/dL. Most labs show the "normal" range as 3.9-5.8 mg/dL. Here's a reference:

Magnesium RBC Blood Test

A more accurate magnesium blood test is a test known as the ionized magnesium test. But unfortunately this test is not available to most people because it is only available at a few select locations.

The most accurate magnesium test of all is known as an EXA test. EXA stands for Energy Dispersive X-Ray Analysis. This test is based on tissue samples scraped from the mouth. But similar to the ionized magnesium test, finding a physician or a lab set up to do the EXA test is likely to be very difficult.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So basically I should continue back on Magnesium therapy as a “known” mineral deficiency of MC? Unfortunately I’d like to think the blood testing that has been run on me multiple times, for one thing or another, throughout this diagnosis would seem to true? This just adds more confusion and insanity to dealing with this disease.
I was on 2 tabs of Mag and a Topical spray until I saw these elevated levels on my blood test, so I stopped.
I’m kinda in the dark here with how to proceed based on your layman’s status and years of research and knowledge on this disease and all that impacts it. Any help is appreciated!
Thanks Tex!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear you. What you need is a real magnesium test and someone to interpret it who knows what he or she is doing. No one is paying me to mislead you. Laughing Go to one of the walk-in lab test facilities, get an RBC magnesium test, and post your results. The other choice is to keep doing what you're doing (nothing) and learn to live with the symptoms. Magnesium is a vital electrolyte and as such, it's not something to be playing around with indiscriminately. Taking it when you don't need it will overwork your kidneys for no good reason, and not taking it when you need it will greatly increase your risk of many, many diseases that are associated with a chronic magnesium deficiency.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am seeing my regular GP next week for a another follow up physical and will see if he can rerun Mag level blood test. I believe in everything you say and started back on the Topical Mag lotion ( Life-Flo) and also 2 tabs of Magnesium a day to play it safe with healing.
I appreciate all your input and feedback Tex!
Hats off to you! Wink
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