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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:54 am    Post subject: question about hernia. anyone has experiences this? Reply with quote

Hi all,

Since four weeks I am on holiday in the south of france. So I wasn't online for a while.
I have a problem at the moment and I wonder if anyone has had a similar experience.
I follow normally a strict diet, but still have arteoarthritisproblems, especially in one hand, toes, sometimes my knee and ankle.
I was doing rather well and because of the holiday I toke a little piece of cheese (sheep) in the hope I could manage this. But I didn't and came in an awful flare with WD, lots of pains in my intestines and worsening of my osteoarthritis. Now I know it for ever: no cheese.
After six days (one week ago) I got a problem which resembles a hernia (L3), but it doesn't have the normal problems with a hernia. I can move my leg and do my yoga exercises without extra problems. I can walk and sit, pain is especially in the night and sitting in the car to drive is not possible.
I saw a doctor two days ago and he did acupunctuur and told me it is a problem with the intervertebral disc (hernia) and he thought it was related to my LC. I didn't ask how exactly, because I was a little overwhelmed and didn't want to take any more of his time. He is a housedoctor (homeopathic) and I could see him because he is a friend of a friend.
Since it started a week ago the pain became less. Today it is worse and what worries me is that I also have more osteoarthritis problems and other allergic symptoms, like burning eyes.
My question is: have I developed a 'new osteoartritis spot' in a intervertebral disc? (The same disc as I had a severe hernia 26 years ago, with I overcame withhout an operation and it always was a little bit a weak spot)?
I feel worried. I would rather like to have a normal hernia with the possibilities of a recovery than a new ' LCspot'. I would appreciate it very much if you will be so kind to share your experiences and thoughts about this subject with me. Thank you in advance.
Sonja
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Sonja,

In my opinion this is indirectly related to the LC by way of the cheese reaction. For me, casein causes a delayed osteoporosis reaction. By "delayed" I mean that it takes weeks to develop sometimes, before I notice the symptoms, and then it takes weeks to go away afterward, before the symptoms completely stop. You may just be having the lingering effects of a reaction against the cheese. If that's the case, you may just need a little more time for the symptoms to completely pass.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Tex,

Thank you very much for your answer.
I hope indeed that the pain will slowly disappear and in special that it doesn't come back at any moment together with my finger problems, because that comes quite often, despite of my strict diet, and I am still not sure about the cause.
In the meantime we are here on a wonderful spot in france and stay one week longer in the hope that I can drive next week. So that is the good news!
Thank you once more, I really appreciate it very much. What should we do without you?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Sonja,

I get serious arthritis pain from cheese and sugar. It can take 3-4 weeks to go down in level. No cheese and no sugar = no pain.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Brandy,

Thank you for your answer. I also can't handle sugar, honey and all this things. Only sweetener for me is dates. I think ou and tex are right. I stick very strictly to my diet since sunday, als no coffee and no wine and getting better day by day and hopefully I can drive back home sunday and monday.
However its sad that you, Tex and and others on te forum have the same problem, it is also nice to be not the only one. If I'll tell other people I got a kind of a hernia because a ate a little bit of cheese, they will certainly roll their eyes.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Sonja,

Yup, I'm probably ok with a tiny cube or two of cheese BUT I tested a 4" x 4" brick of mozzarella. I was only planning on having a small piece of the mozzarella but it was SO GOOD that I ate the whole thing. EXTREME PAIN in right knee within 24 hours. When I got out of bed I almost had to crawl to the bathroom. I knew immediately it was the cheese.

I subsequently told my friends that I can't have dairy due to the joint pain. They just rolled their eyes.

I am no longer attracted to cheese.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sonja, I shared the story here of getting hugely glutened (a whole hamburger bun!) and developing crippling knee pain. It's nearly 3 months later and it has improved greatly but I'm still aware of it. I certainly get the eye rolls too when I tell people that. Deb
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Deb, Brandy and Tex,

Thank you for your reply's.
I came home ten days ago and fortunately I could come by car. The pain became slowly less, but it is still not completely gone. In the meantime I'm convinced it was/is an inflammation of the intervertebral disc and linked to the peace of cheese. I mention now too that I'm no longer attracted to cheese!!
The only thing I could do to make the chance bigger that I could get home was stick to my diet very strictly and I also skipped totally the coffee (before one a day) and alcohol (before 1-2 daily). That is now 3 1/2 weeks ago and I mention a big difference in my osteoarthritis problems and BM.
I never was sure about the wine, but now I know I don't react good to it. I really like wine and it actually was an important pleasure for me. So that's one more loss, but I think its worth it.
Thanks one more time,

Sonja
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Location: Central Texas

PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sonja,

The sulfites in wine bother many people. Wine has sulfites naturally, as a by-product of fermentation, but some vintners add extra sulfites to act as a preservative. There are low sulfite wines available, however. You have to ask, or check the label. You might be able to switch to a low-sulfite type and continue to drink wine without any problems.

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