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Have you ever had a root canal procedure?
Yes, and at least one of them was before my MC symptoms began.
68%
 68%  [ 55 ]
Yes, but it happened after my MC symptoms began.
11%
 11%  [ 9 ]
No, but I have had other serious dental problems, prior to the advent of my MC symptoms.
5%
 5%  [ 4 ]
No, I've never had a root canal, and my teeth have never had any serious issues.
15%
 15%  [ 12 ]
Total Votes : 80

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tex
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Food Intolerances : Gluten, casein, soy, and avenin, (avenin is the prolamin in oats, which is equivalent to the gluten in wheat), beef, grapes, peanuts, cashews, almonds, (but nut butters seem OK except for peanuts), citric acid, chocolate, and agar.
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:10 pm    Post subject: Have You Ever Had A Root Canal Procedure? Reply with quote

Hi All,

It has been shown by research, (Dr. Weston Price), that the dental procedure known as a "root canal", virtually always results in encapsulated, (live), bacteria, within the tooth itself, and those bacteria apparently survive indefinitely, retaining the potential to metastasize, any time that the body experiences severe stress, trauma, etc. When, they metastasize, they send toxins, which can appear at virtually any location, or organ, within the body, and this site then becomes the focal point of a new infection, or new disease, usually with idiopathic characteristics, (since no one knows where it came from). If you are interested in a little background information on this, here are a couple of links to articles which discuss Dr. Price's research. The second link, was written by Dr. George Meinig, a respected endodontist, who is the author of a book that exposed the cover-up of Dr. Price's research.

http://www.notdoctors.com/crci3.html

http://www.mizar5.com/coverup.htm

Since this could have implications for the origins of microscopic colitis, and possibility many other "autoimmune diseases", I would very much appreciate if you would respond to this survey, so that we can "compare notes", to see if there might be a connection of some sort.

Thanks,
Tex

P. S. Gloria suggested this poll - thanks, Gloria.
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had root canals done on several teeth but one tooth has had extensive surgery and bone added and still may have to have it pulled. I have about the price of a car invested in that tooth and I am not willing to get an implant since I can't take anti inflammatory meds and I seem to have a healing problem with work on my teeth.
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Food Intolerances : almonds, walnuts, eggs, milk, bananas, peanuts, strawberries, kiwi, about 15 mild intolerances (all IgG)
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

grannyh, I hear you about the price of dental work! Definitely the cost of cars for sure!

I have had one root canal. It was done in late 1989 or 1990 I can't remember which. I started getting nerve pain in 1997. I more than likely had something going on in my gut for at least a short while before that, but since my MC is not typical when it comes to symptoms I can't really say when the MC onset was, but I would venture a guess somewhere in the time frame of the pain.

My nerve pain did coincide with the last of my crowns I had done (I have 8). There are some who say that is because of the increased mercury exposure and hitting that tipping point with that (I have 15 fillings) due to contact with the nickel plated crowns to the fillings. Maybe. Maybe not. I'm lumping that in with the possibilities.

I think there is a possibility that FOR ME, my dental work at least plays a role in my MC. I can't really base it on anything more than a hunch and a small amount of research that I can't claim is conclusive.

Has Dr. Fine done any research on an infectious cause or causes for MC? I wonder if it isn't caused by the same thing for everyone, but may have different causes that come to a similar result basically.

Shonda
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tex,

I had a root canal in November of 08. I had to have a bridge put in about 5 or 6 years ago and I can't remember if it was b/f or after the d started to really get bad, but I think that it was b/f b/c my dd was about 3 at the time.

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Food Intolerances : Gluten, casein, soy, and avenin, (avenin is the prolamin in oats, which is equivalent to the gluten in wheat), beef, grapes, peanuts, cashews, almonds, (but nut butters seem OK except for peanuts), citric acid, chocolate, and agar.
Location: Central Texas

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shonda,

I would guess that Dr. Fine has done some research on the possibility that an infectious agent may be a cause of MC, but other than mentioning this possibility in several places, he has never provided much detail on this concept, (that I am aware of). Here, for example, is a quote from the notes of an early lecture that he gave, (this was back before it was discovered that other meds, such as PPIs, SSRIs, etc, can cause MC):

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Speculations on the Pathogenesis of Microscopic Colitis


HLA-directed T-cell reaction to an antigenic stimulus in the colonic lumen

Not gluten or other dietary derivative

Related to bacteria or another microorganism

Potentiated by NSAID’s and possibly estrogen supplements

Antibiotics or other factors related to alteration of colonic flora


Note that the line, "Not gluten or other dietary derivative", does not mean that we cannot react to gluten or other dietary components. It means that these are not the initial cause of the onset of the disease.

Tex
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that information.

Maybe the poll could be expanded to include pulled/extracted teeth and extracted wisdom teeth before or after MC onset. There are some who believe incorrectly removed teeth can set up the same sort of focal infection scenario as root canals, due to the periodontal ligament that is left behind not allowing the bone to heal over properly, creating a cavitation where bacteria can hang out. Dentists rarely remove the periodontal ligament because they don't consider it a potential problem.

I'm really interested in reading more about the mycobacterium I've seen mentioned, too. I know very little about it. I've been thinking about the cipro thing and barring some sort of "off label" effect of cipro, it would seem that it's either slighly knocking down an infection that takes more long term abx (such as a mycobacterium, or a focal infection that gets taken out by the cipro that gets re-infected from it's source (such as an oral infection that doesn't get good blood supply) after the cipro is stopped. Here I am thinking out loud again. This stuff is enough to make someone obsess Laughing !

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Location: Central Texas

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would rather not change a poll after it has already accumulated a number of votes, since that wouldn't be fair to the original voters, and it could raise some questions about the accuracy of the poll. Hopefully, issues such as the ones you mentioned, will be noted in the third choice, "No, but I have had other serious dental problems, prior to the advent of my MC symptoms".

That's the one that caught my vote, since I had a couple of wisdom teeth chiseled out, when I was in my 20s. I rated it as a serious dental problem, because one of my ears bled, afterwards. Rolling Eyes

Tex
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can always do another poll later. I am interested in how the current one comes out without any changes.
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Food Intolerances : Gluten, Soy
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also had a wisdom tooth "chiseled out" many years ago but no ear bleeding. I would have considered that serious also. Did have pieces coming to the surface for a while.

I am usually so happy and relieved to be released from the chair (no matter what they did) that I consider the rest of the day to be great!! HaHa

Love, Shirley
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point Tex about changing it messing with the poll results. Then maybe there could be a clarification on the option for "serious dental problems." Wisdom tooth removal is considered almost routine by many people since so many people have it done. Although, that alone could skew results. If so many people have it done, then there are going to be a lot of people who have had it done and don't get MC, so it may not be measurable even though it may have had some influence. The "focal infection' theories are based on the infections possibly being by one or more of many different organisms, so not all would have the same consequences.
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shonda,

I agree. Just because we might have such infections, is no guarantee that we will develop MC as a result, just as having the genes, does not guarantee that disease will develop - it merely opens the door to the possibility of disease. Probably, additional "enabling" conditions have to be present, before the disease will be triggered.

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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 R/C's 1 about 5 years ago and another 2 years prior to the onset of M/C.
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite a number of roots canals, then a Manhattan bridge, then a full bridge, and now no teeth but double dentures. A total waste of all those previous $$.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tex, I just read your post regarding root canal. Interestingly, I had root canal surgery around the same time that I was first beginning to have chronic "D" and I recall mentioning to the endodontist that I might have to run to the bathroom during the procedure.......fortunately I didn't .......but I alerted him to the fact that I was dealing with this problem. A few months later when my GI doc diagnosed me having LC...... I asked him how I got it...his reply was that I must have somehow gotten an infection.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmmm. Interesting.

Tex
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